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GloryFox · Aug 04, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Blizzard has nothing original they steal from everyone, including Tolkeen they watch the forums for their game and other competitors to out wit out do out perform for marketing, Blizzard makes games for Marketing not originality. GW has one thing Blizzard does not have however, and that's Jeff Grubb the original idea man for the Underdark from Forgotten Realms. Say what you will about GW lore but the catacombs and Underworld are essentially the idea's of this man.

Jeff Grubb @ WoTC
http://ww2.wizards.com/Books/Wizards...?doc=JeffGrubb

Jeff Grubb @ ANET
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Jeff_Grubb

Mikael2021 · Aug 04, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

The video was trying to catch your emotions, give you the chills.. but with those #@^%*y graphics, that didn't occur. All I could do was wait for it to end so I can say I watched it.

Metal Herc · Aug 04, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Yeeeehaw! Blizzard is steelin them thar ideaers from Guild Wars.

Guild Wars borrow ideas from all of the games before it. Not to mention the whole concept and lore behind Northrend came out in 02 with Warcraft 3.

Fanboys from both games suck.

acidic · Aug 04, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

And this is why I think Guild Wars is an Amish video game. The players defend the game so vigorously that they are ignorant to everything else, and think that their culture (i.e. Guild Wars itself) is a gift from God himself.

Warcraft III was released in 2002. Guild Wars didn't even exist then.

the gw fanbase are rabid and don't you dare to disagree with them

The High Lord · Aug 04, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

It looks just like GW:EN, only uglier and more PvE'ish. (And with bad voice acting)

Lawnmower · Aug 04, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

The thread creators only goal with this thread, was to find a way to show you the WoW lich king video. He most likely know that WoW makes many GW fans see red, due to bitterness or simply just sheer hatred. For some sick reason it gives him satisfaction. The same satisfaction that all the people who like to come to GW messege boards for Fans, to post their hatred for the game or speak of their doomsday prophercies about how much the game is going to die, get.

comparing it with the GWEN trailer is merely a rogue explanation. An escape goat so he could post it. I know these type of people because I used to be one myself. It's a cleaver attempt, but he can't fool an old geek with too many flame wars and banned users behind him.

BlackSephir · Aug 04, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Both GW and WoW are sooo original...

Lonesamurai · Aug 04, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

I'll admit, there are a lot of similarities, but then again, there isn't much originality in either

Zinger314 · Aug 04, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Say what you will about GW lore but the catacombs and Underworld are essentially the idea's of this man.

The Greeks invented Catacombs and the concept of an Underworld first.

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Originally Posted by The High Lord

It looks just like GW:EN, only uglier and more PvE'ish. (And with bad voice acting)

Are you implying that GW:EN has good voice acting?!

The amount of irony just ripped a hole in the space-time continuum.

Sujoy · Aug 04, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

A) The first Death Knight was Arthas Menetil, after having found the Frostmourne. Not a W/N.

B) Northren exists before GW was even made.

C) The people here just love to talk smack and comment/critic a game that isn't even out yet, or by pure jealousy/hatred without knowing any facts.

Miral · Aug 04, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Lich King actually looks pretty cool. That death knight sounds very original to a game like this. Yeah name and role wise its basically a shadowknight, but the whole rune-sword idea sounds interesting! And unlocking a class through a quest... thats somewhat new-ish.... certainly not a copy of guild wars in any case, though I wouldn't be surprised if GW2 end up using an idea like that (like start with core classes, unlock sin, rit, derv, para through quests)

In the end I think guild wars has a bit more potential, but WoW is far better at realizing its potential and really fleshing it out. just wish WoW would increase texture resolutions a tad hehe

Redfeather1975 · Aug 04, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Ohhhh. The Lich King.
He's a big baddie from lore. Isn't he an Orc?

kradens · Aug 04, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

zomfg

there's a burning forest in the WoW trailer.

and a big thing smashing the ground with a club. (theres one in the GW trailer)

Gwmaster · Aug 04, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

i only have one thing to say: who cares? i mean just stop watching who the f*** copied which and enjoy the damn game when it comes out, as someone said in the other page there is like a dozen games that had expansions with similar things.If WoW copied Guildwars or vise versa, it wont change anything to your life unless you have some kind of mysterious bond with the game that keeps you alive.Also stop making threads about wow vs gw, its been over 2 years the games are out and they both are good, if you cant understand that just look at how many people play it.

sry but im getting tired of this kind of crap. Rofl this thread makes me think about that guy in Borat movie that keeps copying what borat buys/does.Man coffee is not good for me

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Redfeather1975 · Aug 04, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Ohhh. I just read some stuff about the lore.
The Lich King is this guy now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Arthas_undead.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P...ing-joined.jpg

Miral · Aug 04, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Ohhh. I just read some stuff about the lore.
The Lich King is this guy now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Arthas_undead.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P...ing-joined.jpg

Aye, the Lich King was a Paladin from Lordaeron, sister kingdom of Stormwind. He was transformed into the lich king upon taking a powerful blade for revenge. and of course in WoW Lordaeron has fallen, and is now the undead lands, with the Undercity residing under what was once Capital City of Lordaeron.

Age · Aug 04, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56

GW:EN owns it .

Nevin · Aug 04, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX

Saw what you will about Blizzard they at least did this where A.Net couldn't/wouldn't/didn't.

This actually sounds rather interesting. Shame that the mesmer didn't have some abilities like this. They're the masters/mistresses of all things arcane. Too bad they couldn't have abilities that allow them to buff party member's spell casting abilities (higher effect, more range, spells cost less) or hinder their enemies' abilities (small effect, shorter range, increase spell cost), etc. Perhaps change Fast Cast to Arcane Mastery or buff the Inspiration line.

I completely agree with you, Anet needs to wake up and realize what GW players have been asking for, for 2 years already.

Zinger314 · Aug 04, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Originally Posted by Miral

Aye, the Lich King was a Paladin from Lordaeron, sister kingdom of Stormwind. He was transformed into the lich king upon taking a powerful blade for revenge. and of course in WoW Lordaeron has fallen, and is now the undead lands, with the Undercity residing under what was once Capital City of Lordaeron.

Not exactly. After obtaining Frostmourne, Arthas became a Death Knight. When Illidan's forces attacked Northrend and weakened the Lich King, Arthas stopped Illidan and the Lich King told Arthas to put on his helmet. Thus, they became merged.

...now why the heck am I explaining WoW lore?

But WoW lore is undeniably deeper that GW lore, of course...

Age · Aug 04, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX
Saw what you will about Blizzard they at least did this where A.Net couldn't/wouldn't/didn't.

This actually sounds rather interesting. Shame that the mesmer didn't have some abilities like this. They're the masters/mistresses of all things arcane. Too bad they couldn't have abilities that allow them to buff party member's spell casting abilities (higher effect, more range, spells cost less) or hinder their enemies' abilities (small effect, shorter range, increase spell cost), etc. Perhaps change Fast Cast to Arcane Mastery or buff the Inspiration line.

I have Faith that a character editor is coming or hairstylist.That would make the mesmer in GW way over powered.This also being a competive game based on skill and skill balances.That one may the best over powered and the one with best leet weapons win.It is no wonderer WoW players can't play GW as they don't fully comprehend the skills.